The Successful Society

Neither can his Mind be thought to be in Tune, whose words do jarre; nor his reason in frame, whose sentence is preposterous; nor his Elocution clear and perfect, whose utterance breaks itself into fragments and uncertainties. Negligent speech doth not onely discredit the person of the Speaker, but it discrediteth the opinion of his reason and judgement

Timber, or, Discoveries made upon Men and Matters, by Ben Jonson (1573?-1637)

Here in The Land of We All, Freedom seems doomed. This post is mostly a comment I left for T.L.

You can read T.L.’s post Here.

“…What we are slowly coming to realize as a society is that there was magic in the wisdom of the founders.”

“As a society”, “we” can realize nothing, slowly or otherwise. Only an individual mind can grasp an idea. Collective intelligence, the justification for Democracy, is laughable. Every schoolchild is taught the bilge that this is a nation of laws, not men. Are you saying that it really is a nation of men, but that it started out with the right sort of men, and the lack of right men is what FUBAR’ed us? As a useful exercise in clarification of concepts, what is the distinction between nation, country, and government?

“…the same wisdom, the same temperament, the same qualities as…George Washington“? The same GW that backed up a tax on whiskey with troops?

“…reinvigorate the Constitution…”?

Since the Constitution didn’t work out the first time, what makes you think it’s “THE answer to our current problems”?

“Some believe that since they have the ability to make laws as did Jefferson, Madison and Adams that they somehow have an understanding of what makes a society a success.”

A “successful society” was, and this might just be my take on things, not the aim of the Founders. Notions about individual liberty seemed to dominate their thoughts. Their big mistake was thinking government was a good thing. A full bloom of individual liberty may or may not produce a “successful society,” whatever you mean by “successful”. And defending liberty by invoking “The greatest good for the greatest number” is not inspiring. If you replace the cry “For Freedom!” with “For the Successful Society!”, you probably won’t have many people rushing to join you in storming the barricades.

“…the duty of the legislator to achieve liberty while still providing protections of liberty among the populace”

Every law restricts your freedom, so every legislator is an enemy of liberty. The good people don’t need them, and the bad people don’t obey them. Every new law involves either theft (tax) or an outrage to our dignity (like TSA).

“hard work of devising laws that protected liberty”

Impossible work, I’d say.

Posted by Dave


2 Comments on “The Successful Society”

  1. Craig Cavanaugh says:

    “The good people don’t need them, and the bad people don’t obey them.”

    Excellent quote. Really sheds light on the true intent and purpose of government…

  2. Underground Carpenter says:

    Hi Mayberry,

    I ripped off that juicy quote from my buddy Perry @ Eidelblog. The quote is a link to his blog. He’s an anarchist up near Philadelphia.


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